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 Post subject: Crafting Gem's and wares
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:08 am 
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So, it seems like people don't know much about crafting yet, so i wanted to inform them. Also, after toying around with it for the last few days i wanted to report on what i found with suggestions for things that should change. The format of this post is going to be the large chucks on information taking from http://www.hellbreathworld.com/ with my comments underneath.


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Crafting isn't a skill as Long Sword and other known skills. It is not something that you can train to improve the chance of being succesful.

Crafting
is a method where you have a chance of creating a superior item. By blending a mixture of different items, one can try and create one of these superior items.

Below is a table of which items are required to create which superior item.

To create the crafted item itself, one would need to buy a Crafting Vessel at shop, and place the listed items into the Crafting Vessel.



I have used the crafting skill a couple of hundred times successfully and find the fail rate very annoying, especially on a high rate server. I suggest keeping the fail rate in the equation however, make it so that you gain success rate for every title level of crafting you achieve. If structured exactly like mining, crafting will be extremely hard in the start. To address this, you should have a standard base percent of around 30% and have the max around 80%

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NOTE:
If you fail, the Merien stone plus 1~2 other items get deleted.
(This doesn't include the crafting where Merien Stones are not used.)


Gem Wares
Each time you create a ware, a random purity is applied to it

To craft a Crystal Ware you need to use 3 Crystals
To craft a Ruby Ware you need to use 2 Ruby and 1 Crystal
To Craft a Sapphire ware you need to use 2 Sapphire and 1 Crystal
To Craft an Emerald ware you need to use 2 Emeralds and 1 Crystal
To Craft a Diamond ware you need to use 2 Diamonds and 1 Crystal


Magic Gem's

There are 4 different types of Magic Gem's, with each different effect.

* Magic Diamond: Adds hitting probability (HP) to magic and physical attacks when equipped

* Magic Ruby: Adds health points (HP) regen when equipped

* Magic Sapphire: Adds physical absorption (PA) when equipped

* Magic Emerald: Gives the wearer extra magic absorption (MA) when equipped


How to figure out your gems function rate
Function rate is how much of a bonus each of these items give (for example, how much hp regen a magic ruby would give)

Magic Diamond: Completion rate / 5 = Functions rate. Maximum 20. (not%)

Magic Ruby: Completion rate / 5 = Functions rate.(%) Maximum 20%.

Magic Emerald: Completion rate / 10 = Functions rate.(%) Maximum 10%.

Magic Sapphire: Completion rate / 10 = Functions rate.(%) Maximum 10%.


As of now, none of this has changed on hellbreath world. These stats need to be changed to better suit the high stat setup of this server. Since these take up the angel space, i would suggest having values that compete with what angels give. Also, Since there is an angel that adds hitting prob already, i would suggest changing what the gem does so that it gives players another option to use in that slot different from whats already in game.



Helbreath Portal wrote:
How to figure out the % of your Magic Gem before you attempt it

Average of the purities of the ingredients multiplied by 0.8 (80%).


For example, if you used a 100% crystalware, 89% diamondware, 67% diamondware, and a 100% Merien Stone (they are always 100%). Then your final completion would be 71% (71.2 rounded down)


or.... {(100 + 89 + 67 + 100 ) / 4 }* 0.8 = 71.2


Since this formula (taken from hbint's website) only allows for making items up to 80%, I believe that from 80% to 100% is done randomly.


Hint: it is best to use only high % Gemwares when makeing Magic Gems and only 100% Crystalwares



The formula on making these should change. I suggest, taking out the part that is multiplied by 0.8 and have the percent on your magic gem be the average of the wares you used. Also, to combat these from being easy to make i would make it require 3 wares of the type of gem you are trying to create. This is so that you need to spend more time craft, searching for the correct percent wares.


Helbreath Portal wrote:

Craft item
To Craft a Magic Diamond you need,
2 Diamondware
1 Crystalware
1 Merien Stone

To Craft a Magic Ruby you need,
2 Rubyware
1 Crystalware
1 Merien Stone


To Craft a Magic Emerald you need,
2 Emeraldware
1 Crystalware
1 Merien Stone

To craft a Magic Sapphire you need,
2 Sapphireware
1 Crystalware
1 Merien Stone


I said this already above, but, since there is 5 spaces for items in the crafting vessel, you should increase the amount of wares from 2 to 3 required to form gems. An example, to craft magic Sapphire you would need

3 Sapphireware
1 Crystalware
1 Merien Stone

instead of whats listed above. This should only be done if the way the game figures out the percent on your gem is changed.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:28 am 
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30% minimum is high on mining FYI ;) but i do like the idea of max and minimum chances.

Also, with Crafting (like mining), it will be based on your title level. I'm guessing the title works now, since I havent heard anything from you regarding that. It is like Crafting will follow suit using min/max chances too.

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Jappy maybe you can add the crafting vessel details on here so people can add it to their contents

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Newest contents have the vessel from shop

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it doesnt vamp unless i am blind and cant see it :/ and have just been ingame(i found a full install i had hidden) and noone else can find it either


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Sorry, I mistook it for the Alchemy Bowl! It will be added in the next contents update.

Players can buy vessels from GMs for 1000 gp if they are desperate.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:08 pm 
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Jewel Wares Ingredients Used In
Crystal 3 Crystal Magic Ruby
Magic Emerald
Magic Sapphire
i have a Crafting Vessel ,but when i create gemwares,I already have three crystal,but the systerm tell me "there is not Materials".
Who can tell me what do you lack the material
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who can help me ???thanks!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:33 pm 
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gogo8013 wrote:
Jewel Wares Ingredients Used In
Crystal 3 Crystal Magic Ruby
Magic Emerald
Magic Sapphire
i have a Crafting Vessel ,but when i create gemwares,I already have three crystal,but the systerm tell me "there is not Materials".
Who can tell me what do you lack the material
?
who can help me ???thanks!!!!


To make the finally product you need to make a crystal ware which is done by putting 3 crystals into the crafting vessel. Then you use those Crystal wares.

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